The two discuss Prince’s career, strategic failures in the wars in Gaza and Ukraine, and how the United States military can prepare for the wars of tomorrow.
You can find Prince’s Unplugged Phone here.
- This interview was conducted on February 2, 2025.
00:00 - Introduction to Iraq and Afghanistan Conflict
00:20 - CIA vs. Pentagon: The Initial Response Post-9/11
01:34 - Guest Introduction and Book Promotion
01:54 - Early Life and Upbringing
02:29 - Naval Academy Experience and Transition to Hillsdale
03:22 - Military Career and Becoming a Navy SEAL
04:03 - Founding of Blackwater and Private Military Training
05:22 - Lean Manufacturing Influence on Blackwater
07:05 - Churchill's Philosophy on War and Its Misinterpretations
07:50 - U.S. Strategy for Defending Taiwan
10:58 - Military-Industrial Complex and Defense Spending
12:02 - Historical Military Leadership and Tactical Efficiency
16:01 - The Importance of Special Operations in Modern Warfare
17:22 - U.S.-China Geopolitical Competition
20:36 - The Evolution of the Chinese Communist Party
22:47 - U.S. vs. China: Innovation, AI, and Industrial Strength
26:08 - Pentagon Inefficiencies and the Need for Reform
30:24 - Life as a Navy SEAL and the Rigors of Training
32:40 - The War in Ukraine: A Strategic Analysis
36:01 - The Role of Modern Warfare Technology
38:46 - Aircraft Carriers and Their Vulnerability
42:44 - Government Overspending and Military Budget Reform
46:06 - The Failure of U.S. Strategy in Afghanistan
47:52 - Lessons from Churchill on Military Strategy
50:30 - The British Navy and Historical Parallels to U.S. Decline
52:28 - Critique of Israel’s Gaza Military Strategy
55:46 - Innovation in Warfare: The Case for Alternative Tactics
59:50 - The Role of Private Military Contractors
1:02:34 - The Importance of Citizen Soldiers and Military Accountability
1:07:12 - Private Sector Innovation in National Security
1:10:17 - The Unplugged Phone: Privacy in the Digital Age
1:14:02 - Closing Thoughts and Final Remarks
REFERNCE VIDEOS FROM AN EARLIER TIME
Civilian Warriors (Erik Prince - Evenings at Acton)


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