Arizona Lawmakers Appear On White Nationalist Rumble Show

Two far-right Arizona state Senators, Justine Wadsack and Wendy Rogers, appeared on the Nov. 6, 2023 episode of CrossTalk News — a Rumble show hosted by racist and antisemitic hosts Lauren Witzke and Edward Szall. Wadsack and Rogers spread conspiracy theories about the 2022 election and demographic replacement.

CrossTalk News

Lauren Witzke is a white nationalist who has appeared on shows hosted by white supremacists. Both Witzke and Szall were fired from TruNews, an online show hosted by antisemitic conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles. And both have spread white supremacist and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Witzke has decried “racial integration” and complained of “Voodoo Africans” “migrating into America.” She has also blamed the Jews for the murder of Jesus Christ, claimed that there is a “war on whites,” referred to “Third world migration” as a “biological weapon,” and praised white supremacist Jared Taylor.

Her co-host Edward Szall has repeatedly promoted the white supremacist “Great Replacement” conspiracy theory which alleges that there is a plan to replace white Americans with immigrants of color, and which has motivated a number of terrorist attacks.

“Our government is complicit in the complete replacement of the native white population of the United States,” he wrote in an Oct. 31, 2023 post on X (formerly Twitter). In another he declared that “There is an deniable [sic] war to replace white people. It’s a state-backed genocide, and the [Anti-Defamation League] is complicit.”

Szall has posted that “Israelites” “literally killed God,” and implied that both the 9/11 attacks and the Oct. 7 massacre of Israelis by Hamas were Jewish conspiracies. Both Witzke and Szall have made references to ZOG — which stands for “Zionist Occupied Government” and is used by white supremacists to refer to their belief that Jews control the U.S. government.

Wendy Rogers Spreads Election Conspiracies And Wants To Serve In Second Trump Administration

In an interview with Lauren Witzke for the extremist-friendly platform Rumble, Sen. Wendy Rogers — who has cozied up to other white nationalists such as Stew Peters and Nick Fuentes — repeated debunked claims of election fraud in both the 2020 presidential election and the 2022 Arizona governor’s race. She also said she would gladly serve in a second Trump administration.

“We do have an illegitimately installed so-called governor [Katie] Hobbs,” Rogers said. “We do know that 2020 was stolen. We know that 2022 was stolen. I’m now chairman of the Senate Elections Committee so I’ve had testimony purposely shown in my committee that shows how the signatures couldn’t have been verified in milliseconds. It’s not humanly, physically possible.”

There is no evidence that either the 2020 presidential election or the 2022 Arizona gubernatorial election were stolen. Legal challenges by gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake and attorney general candidate Abe Hamadeh have been unsuccessful, which Rogers claimed was due to the courts being “hopelessly, in many respects, corrupt.”

Rogers also praised X owner Elon Musk, Rumble, and Dinesh D’Souza, whose propaganda film 2000 Mules falsely alleges that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump.

From the Nov. 6, 2023 episode of CrossTalk News

“So, alright, last question for you. So there’s a lot of talks about President Trump picking a VP. I thought you’d make a great Vice President of the United States to partner with President Trump. It’s Arizona, he needs the state. What do you say, would you ever?” Witzke asked.

Rogers replied that if Donald Trump reached out to her about being the “deputy undersecretary for garbage collection” she would accept the position and “go wherever my country asks me to go.”

“I think I have, probably, an affinity for the Homeland Security space because of being a border state,” Rogers said. “I have an affinity for anything DOD-related because of my military background. And I really think it comes down to loyalty and steadfastness. President Trump will need people around him who he can count on and who he can trust.”

From the Nov. 6, 2023 episode of CrossTalk News

Justine Wadsack Defends Anti-LGBTQ Record And Spreads ‘Great Replacement’ And Election Conspiracies

Next, CrossTalk News aired an interview between Sen. Justine Wadsack and Edward Szall. Szall told Wadsack that “when it comes to the youth,” “two big issues” they face are drugs like fentanyl and “digital drugs” like pornography. He added that “from a spiritual standpoint, demon possession” is also a problem among young people.

Wadsack agreed with Szall on these matters, and boasted that she and other Republicans are “fighting Big Brother” — in reference to the totalitarian government in George Orwell’s 1984. And she defended anti-LGBTQ stances she’s taken as an elected official.

“The LGBTQAI+ alphabet agenda is one of the most dangerous because, not only is it coming for the children, but it’s also bastardizing just the simplicity of what being a homosexual person might’ve been,” she said. “Now you have people that are part of the homosexual community that are saying ‘Hey, we didn’t ask for all of this extra stuff.'”

Wadsack boasted that she “wrote bills to give parents more of an authority” to challenge books in public schools that are “inappropriate” if they don’t want their children to learn about “sodomy.” One bill Wadsack sponsored would allow parents to request books be banned if they contained “lewd or sexual content” or “promote gender fluidity or gender pronouns.”

Wadsack complained that, in response, she was called a “Nazi” and a “book burner.”

“We are not Nazi Germany,” she protested. “We are simply trying to protect the innocence of children, and they are coming after them at every turn. Books, Internet, Google, Facebook, Instagram — it doesn’t matter where — and now our schools. So school choice is a very, very huge aspect of my presence in the state senate.”

Wadsack also pointed out that she “wrote a bill that was to stop the Drag Queen Story Hour” which she modeled after other bills in TennesseeMontana, and Florida — all of which have been halted by federal courts. She complained that “they came for me so hard” in response to her anti-drag bill and attempted to recall her.

From the Nov. 6, 2023 episode of CrossTalk News

Wadsack also spread the white supremacist “Great Replacement” conspiracy theory and falsely claimed that the 2020 Arizona governor’s race had been stolen. Szall asked Wadsack about “border security,” to which Wadsack responded that Arizona has “great sheriffs” who enforce the border but also “very corrupt sheriffs.”

In particular she praised Sheriff Mark Dannels, who has used right-wing media appearances to demonize immigrants, while criticizing the Department of Homeland Security.

“I’m all for states’ rights,” Wadsack told Szall. “I believe that we should be allowed to enact the Tenth Amendment and say we want to protect our sovereignty, and we want to enact — we are a federation of states. This isn’t the federal government and they should not have that ability to determine whether or not we have border security.”

Wadsack complained that undocumented immigrants are “flooding our hospitals” and “taking all of the low-income housing that we had for veterans and for low-income residents that are tax-paying American citizens.”

“They’re pushing our people out while they’re taking over,” she alleged. “And if you go to a hospital such as Banner, you’re gonna find the emergency room just flooded and filled with illegals. And none of them are paying. Banner has to, by federal law, take care of them and give them their service.”

“And so we in Arizona are paying millions and millions of dollars to give free healthcare to people when my son, who has Type 1 Diabetes, he can’t get free healthcare. He’s screwed. Sorry American citizen, you’re not worthy. But these people who just came over from Africa through our southern border are gonna get heart surgery and knee replacement.”

Wadsack added that “It’s a replacement. They’re replacing us.”

Szall told Wadsack that he sees “white Christians being replaced,” and called it “funny” that he himself is of Indian descent while his “race sect” has “completely dominated” the “IT industry” in Texas. “And there’s no will to assimilate. And it’s a problem,” he said.

Szall then pivoted to election conspiracy theories, saying that Arizona was “ground zero for the last, I’d say the last major steal.”

“Yeah they stole that election from Kari [Lake]. And I’m not afraid to say that,” Wadsack declared.

“There was no way that Katie Hobbs won. She was just like Biden in hiding in basements, hiding in bathrooms. She was not campaigning. She refused to have any sort of debate. Nobody really knew what she stood for, but they knew she was part of the Democrat [sic] Party, the far-left Democrat Party, the Marxist side of it.”

From the Nov. 6, 2023 episode of CrossTalk News