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Victoria Nuland's Personal Interventions Get Thwarted Again
On Monday, Nuland, who played a role in the events leading up to the Western-backed coup in Ukraine in 2014, revealed that she had personally met with Niger’s current defense chief Moussa Barmou and three other senior commanders to urge them to restore the constitutional order in the country.
The mere mention of the PMC has caused the US to consider recognizing the new government in Niger, Evgeny Prigozhin has said
Wagner chief Evgeny Prigozhin says he is proud of the members of his private military company as simply mentioning their name can compel Washington to reassess its positions. Acting US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland recently urged Niger’s new military government not to enlist the help of the Russian contractors.
Speaking to journalists over the phone on Tuesday, Prigozhin was asked to comment on Nuland’s personal visit to Niger and her advice to the new government not to strike any deals with Wagner.
“I am proud of the boys from Wagner,” replied Prigozhin. “Just the thought of them makes ISIS and Al Qaeda small, obedient, silky boys. And the US has recognized a government that it did not recognize yesterday just to avoid meeting the Wagner PMC in the country.”
“This brings joy, Mrs. Nuland,” he quipped.
One of the members of the new military government in Niger, Gen. Salifou Moody, reportedly sought the assistance of Wagner to help safeguard their power. The coup leaders are currently facing an approaching deadline to either return ousted president Mohamed Bazoum to power or face a possible military intervention by neighboring states.
On Monday, Nuland, who played a role in the events leading up to the Western-backed coup in Ukraine in 2014, revealed that she had personally met with Niger’s current defense chief Moussa Barmou and three other senior commanders to urge them to restore the constitutional order in the country.
The US official also claims to have warned Barmou against enlisting the help of the Russian PMC, suggesting that Prigozhin’s group is a “threat to those countries where it is present.”
Niger’s new leaders, however, have apparently refrained from making any firm commitments on the issue.
Moscow, meanwhile, says it opposes any foreign interference in the situation in Niger, arguing that it would most likely fail to change the situation for the better. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov has expressed hope that the turbulent country will soon return to “constitutional normality.”
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A senior U.S. diplomat says she was barred from meeting with Niger’s president who was seized by his own guards at his palace in a coup last month. Acting Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland blamed coup leaders for the denial, describing ousted Niger President Mohamed Bazoum as under “virtual house arrest” during her visit to the Niger capital of Niamey. Describing her interactions with the military junta involved in the coup, Nuland told reporters, according to the Associated Press, “They were quite firm about how they want to proceed, and it is not in support of the constitution of Niger.”
Senior U.S. Diplomat Victoria Nuland’s Request Snubbed by Niger Coup Leaders
‘QUITE FIRM’
She added that the discussions during the two-hour meeting were “extremely frank and at times quite difficult,” but did reveal President Bazoum was being detained with his wife and son.
Niger coup leaders refuse to let senior US diplomat meet with nation’s president
24 February 2023 Victoria Nuland Interview
Novaya Gazeta: I think it’s a great opportunity, you know, to have directly your voice to the Russian audience. It’s just very important to us the anniversary of war. So my my first question is, what do you think about this suspending of New START treaty by President Putin? Will the United States somehow answer on this?
Nuland: Kirill I’d like to remind that this
suspension is frankly not new. It’s new that President Putin announced
it to the country. But in fact, Russia has not allowed inspections, nor
has it come to inspect us since 2020, and it has not agreed to sit down
at the table for the bilateral commission to go over mutual
implementation. We tried very hard in ‘23 to reestablish that contact
and to allow for Russian inspections, and it was the Kremlin that said
no.
So we think it’s highly irresponsible for us not to be implementing the
New START treaty. We do not plan any changes to our posture. We are not
planning to test, we are not planning to build new weapons. But the U.S.
and Russia have a responsibility to the world to be good stewards of
nuclear weapons. So we urge Russia to reconsider and allow the
implementation of the treaty fully.
Novaya Gazeta: Okay. Thank you so much. Putin insists that, you know, that the United States want to strategically defeat Russia, and that is why he needs to raise stakes with the nuclear weapons. Is, well, do United States really have such kind of plans against Russia’s, kind of strategical defeating?
Nuland: Kirill The only thing we want is for Russia
to get out of Ukraine and allow Ukraine to be a free, independent
country, a good neighbor to everybody. This war is completely Putin’s
decision and it’s based on his own vain ideas of conquest. And it’s
tragic. It’s tragic for Ukraine, obviously, but it’s equally tragic for
Russia. 200,000 of Russia’s sons dead or wounded in this war.
A million of the best and brightest, including yourself, have fled
Russia because they don’t want to participate in this. And sanctions
that we’ve had to put on are mortgaging Russia’s future. The complete
end to your energy and economic relationship with Europe. It really is
sad. I want to ask President Putin, what are the Russian people getting
out of this? Notning.
Novaya Gazeta: Thank you so much. How do you think what is the main result of this, of the year of the war, including Europe, Ukraine, Russia, the United States?
Nuland: Well, obviously, you know, for Ukraine, it
has been the most difficult year in her history, or at least since World
War Two. But the response from the Ukrainian people has been
unbelievable. You know, I remember those first weeks of war where we
really thought a hundred battalions of Russian forces encircling Ukraine
would conquer Kiev, would topple the government, and the Ukrainians’
brave resistance on the battlefield.
But also every Ukrainian family that has worked to sustain the country,
including in the context of brutal attacks on the heating system, the
water system. So their ability to stay united and to fight back has been
truly amazing. I will say that this war has also united the allies and
partners of the Western nations. It’s made NATO’s stronger.
Putin thought he would break NATO, but instead we have more money, more
troops, more unity than before this war. I think the saddest part, apart
from the destruction of Ukraine itself and its difficulty, as I said,
has been what’s happened to Russia from Putin’s choices. You know, he’s
been in power for 20 years. He could have spent that time building his
own country, its economy, its education, its technology, its integration
with us moving from being simply an energy and weapons power to being
the diverse power that that Russia should be.
And instead, he spent all this money on a military that is now almost
half destroyed in Ukraine alone. And the taxpayer money of Russia that
was saved in the sovereign wealth fund, more than half of it is frozen
overseas and will now be spent on the reconstruction of Ukraine. Will
have to be, because Russia will be held responsible.
So it really is a very, very sad situation which didn’t have to happen.
And you remember when President Biden met with President Putin in
Geneva, just less than six months into the beginning of the term, I was
there as well, and we offered a more stable, predictable relationship
with Russia. And President Putin rejected that. We offered in January of
‘22, when we saw this war coming, we offered to try to hear Russia out,
negotiate its concerns.
We had one round and then Putin pushed back from the table. So this is
about one person’s evil choice of conquest rather than doing his job,
which is taking care of the Russian people and Russia.
Novaya Gazeta: Thank you. Can the United States recognize Russia as a sponsor of terrorism and how it will affect the country and its citizens?
Nuland: Well, we do have legislation that allows that, you know. The question is it usually is designed for states that support other organizations that are terrorist. I think instead what we see is a Russian military that is itself behaving in barbarous ways, mass graves, the exfiltration of Ukrainians, including children, the rape and torture of people on the battlefield. So it is Russia itself that is committing war crimes, not sponsoring somebody else.
Novaya Gazeta: Thank you so much. Two last, short questions. What do you think? Can China be the real ally for President Putin in this war?
Nuland: You know, China continues to tell the world
that it is neutral in this conflict, that it supports the sovereignty
and territorial integrity of states, including Ukraine, that it supports
the UN charter. So our message back to China is, if you want to
maintain your credibility on that front, do not get into the arms
business with Putin. Do not accelerate this bloody war, work for peace.
We have already seen examples of Chinese companies starting to aid the
Russian war effort. As you may know, we sanctioned one Chinese company a
couple of weeks ago, Spacety, because it was providing geo locational
data for the Wagner group. And our sanctions package tomorrow will also
seek to close sanctions evasion by China. And our warnings have been
very, very strong.
So we hope that China will, in fact, live up to its word and stay neutral.
Novaya Gazeta: Thank you so much. What is your message for the Russian audience, for those people who are against the war in Russia or who are in doubt, who don’t understand how to react to all this situation?
Nuland: What I would say is that American hearts bleed for Ukraine, but we also bleed for all the Russian families who are affected by this war, who have lost their sons on the battlefield, who are squeezed economically, who have had family and friends feel like they have to flee, and whose kids’ chances are so constrained by the choices that Putin has made.
Novaya Gazeta: Thank you so much, Undersecretary. I think we really can finish.
Nuland: Thank you, Kirill!
Novaya Gazeta: Thank you for your collaboration.
Nuland: Good luck to you.
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